Allies and Coordinated Effort
Thursday
The number of people who understand Islam's prime directive is no longer inconsequential. It has been growing steadily since 9/11. The most curious among us looked into it and began sharing what we were discovering with others, and our numbers have increased, and are increasing faster as more of us take up the task of educating.
There are now enough of us and our networks of communication are good enough that we can start focusing coordinated efforts at limited political and educational objectives.
If you were going to choose just one objective for the entire counterjihad community to focus on, what would it be?
And communications networks have grown organically (and sometimes created deliberately), and are beginning to be effective. Among the people in the counterjihad movement, things take very little time to reach everybody. When a particularly good article or video comes out, for example, it gets mentioned on counterjihad Facebook pages, blogs and email newsletters, is shared by lots of people via email, and written about in major counterjihad online publications like Jihad Watch and the ACT! for America email updates. The word gets out to almost everybody, and fairly quickly.
If you were going to choose just one objective for the entire counterjihad community to focus on, what would it be?
22 comments:
Demand the Holy Land trial documents and evidence be unsealed!
We need to first focus on uniting. It's something Muslims manage to do. They want something and go for it, using our own laws to their advantage. The counterjihad movement still has too many divisions in it, infighting (hatred at times to other groups). This is not just a Christian vs Islam or Hindu v Islam problem. This is Humanity vs Islam. That needs to be accepted before any coordinated action can be implemented. We have the numbers on our side. We The People can win.
Current situation of Myanmar (Burma)
The protection of free speech (first amendment) and the condemnation of the so called "blasphemy laws" the UN is trying to ram down our throats. This is a doable objective. If the Islamists win that particular front, we are doomed and literally overnight.
I wish we could get Islam stripped of its designation as a religion, (but this is not attainable and we shouldn't waste our time on it) but it is a religion of sorts but the political, military and exclusivity pillars are what cause us danger. And the fact that Islam must completely destroy any existing culture of the conquered people (Iran and Egypt are the best examples).
Janet Ormstown left this message:
If we could all focus on only one goal re Islam, it would be: make all aware of how dangerous Islam is: kill infidels, subjugate women, kill apostates, etc.
Goal: change voting, change laws, make dealing w Islam a top top priority. In other words, no Muslim immigration, intense supervision of all mosques.
Large goal: ban Islam as innately dangerous.
But now, I see that various goals are important: expose and disempower Muslim Brotherhood, expose and make illegal Sharia. publicize content of Islam.
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The most important thing I can see is the effort to keep Sharia from becoming a viable force in American courts. Cutting the Saudis off from US oil $$$ would also be effective, but I don't see how this will happen anytime soon. Certainly not in time. Hate to be so gloom and doom, but Islam is on the march, and more determined to dominate than the West is to resist.
Someone emailed this comment:
I would say even today islamic jihad for world conquest continues ,as there have been 22000 deadly act of terror since 9/11and we must defeat Islam as it is incompatible with our Freedoms, Human Rights ,Democracy and Constitution by restricting muslim immigration,Protecting the Apostates from Islam from death everywhere,Liberating the muslim women from Sharia Law, and denouncing Muhammad as a criminal, slave trader, torturer, pedophile, murderer and bandit deserving our contempt!
The 2 page antiislam brochure you recently published is very informative!
We have two enemies here: 1) islam and 2) those among us (mainly lefties/the leftist media/leftist politicians), who wish to protect islam and destroy those who are trying to get the truth about islam out to the general public. In order to defeat islam, we must weaken the people among us who are trying to suppress the truth. Somehow, we need to expose these people so that they are marginalized. This would allow our message to get through much more easily. We need to expose them and, at the same time, create a new, alternate media.
The single most pressing issue to be addressed is Muslim immigration. It must be stopped. And this means that the U.S. must release itself from any obedience to the UNHRC Refugee Resettlement program. The UN is controlled by the 57-member OIC, the largest voting bloc in the UN. These Muslim countries, through the UNHRC, dictate to us how many refugees we have to take in, and which ones. So we get flooded with Muslims who aren't even remotely refugees, and meanwhile the Christians and other minorities who are truly persecuted in Muslim lands are being left high and dry.
I'd second what Alba d'Veritas has said. We are very fragmented and isolated. I could be sitting next to someone on the train just as concerned about the Islamic menace as I am and there is no way of knowing it. If only we could think of a discreet method of making counter-jihadists recognisable to each other we could form alliances much more quickly. Unfortunately, in this highly menacing atmosphere we are acutely sensitive to being ambushed if our views are known. If we could find a way of showing our colors without giving ourselves away too unambiguously, we could decrease our isolation, increase our confidence and become more united and far more effective. Our political leaders would also begin to notice that we are not such a small presence anymore. We would be much less easy to ignore. If anyone has experience of the gay movement, it must be a bit like "coming out". It's also amazing how people find the courage to change their opinions and attitudes when they know a lot of other people share them.
Over simplification is no solution, nor does it contribute materially to a solution.
Pissing on the edge of a grass fire does no good except on a very small fire, right at the point of origin.
The time for that was 1,390 years ago; it is far too late now.
We can not accomplish anything useful without greater numbers, activism & money.
We are not able to engage in life saving in Africa, Arabia & Asia where Christians are being murdered and their churches burned with impunity.
We must concentrate on protecting exposures, the most important and at risk being the First Amendment's free speech clause.
Is anone reading this aware of the UNHRC's Ad Hoc Cmte. on Elaboration of Complementary International Standards, its mission and the fact that it meets again next month?
Is anyone reading this aware of the fact that under Islamic law, the penalty for not being Muslim is death?
Is anyone reading this aware of the fact that under Islamic law, the penalty for reviling Islam, Allah or Moe is death?
Shari'ah must be stopped in its trackes and reversed, permanently. The repeal of Part 13 is minor and reversible, but it is a good start.
We can only keep pounding the facts and the issues. We must make more people aware of the existential threat and activate them to resist it.
We do need to defrock Islam, close its institutions, expel & exclude its believers.
We can begin by educating the members of Congress, one at a time. This on line petition will email itself to yours when you sign it.
http://www.petition2congress.com/8001/international-quran-petition/?src=widget
When the stafs of your Congressman & Senators read the pdf file linked in that petition, they will get a real eyefull of irrefutable evidence against Islam.
Internationally:
The Islamic Republic of Iran & their pursuit of Nukes.
They have worked with al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad & have Hezbollah cells here in the U.S..
First order of business - regime change, with the assistance of the U.S. and our military. Take out the Nuclear facilities, their Command & Control Centers, Revolutionary Guard Regional HQ's, support MeK, domestic unions & students.
Domestically:
Name the Muslim Brotherhood, and their affiiates, CAIR, ISNA, MSA, NAIT, etc. as Terrorist Organization. Seize records, files, assets and computers - arrest and/or deport leadership.
Open up Anwar and have a true, all of the above approach towards Energy Independence. Build up our Miliary & close our borders.
No more Mr. Nice Guy - time to become as deadly serious as our Enemies are.
VTY,
Cincinnatus
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Atch:
Brainstorm session:
Sharia
American Law for America Courts
Mosques
--Find a way to stop construction.
--identifying which are hardline orthodox or moderate but controlled by hardliners
--Develop brochure on impact of mosque in community
School Textbook review/control
--Brigitte G has a comprehensive study out on this
Web of Islamic groups
--how to expose them
Government dhimmitude
--exposing Islamists in the Administration
--Eliminating the restrictions on government agencies
--State, FBI, CIA, NSA are all restricted from using terms that accurately describe the threat and Islam. Call a spade a spade. Know your enemy. Use correct, not politically correct terminology.
--removing apologists
--opening eyes of legislators
--program to educate/assist powerbrokers
--State government/ lawmakers
--draft laws that pass Constitutional muster ready for legislatures to implement
--changing this probably depends on controlling Congress or electing a Constitutional President
Censorship/blasphemy laws
--end run with countering bills in the States
Educating Americans
--new ad program designed for internet with short and compelling video to educate citizens, legislators. This requires video experts on our wavelength.
--Develop an App for Smart Phones
--Develop Smart phone network to enable beneficial “flash mobs” to converge on when concentrated pressure is needed anywhere nationwide to influence the media
--Provide media outlets around the nation
--Training on Islam; facts; references
--An on-line guidebook for reporting on Islam
-- Consolidated slide/video presentation that Citizen Warriors can use to educate local citizens
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Personally visit your member of parliament. We must change the minds of the politicians.
Emotions can't come into the equation.
We need FACTS for the fight.
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Making Shariah law enforcement (official and unofficial) an act of sedition. I think we need jihad crime laws just like we need gang crime laws. Of course, to do that we would have to impeach Obama and his Administration, which is facilitating the enforcement of Sharia.
http://impeachpresidentobama.weebly.com/)
Islamic law is seditious to the constitution of the USA, the supreme law of the land. If we don't treat Islam and Islamic law, which most Muslims want to see enforced in AMERICA and the whole world, as seditious, and if we don't demote Islam from its status as a religion in the USA, then I don't think America has any hope. Please, tell me if I am wrong. But if I am not, please do everything you can to help save America and the rest of the free world.
Taqiyya awareness.
Once people are aware of taqiyya - the fact that Muslims are encouraged to lie to spread Islam, then nobody will believe their propaganda or anything they say anymore. That means the education battle is half won.
Civilus Defendus weighed in with this:
"I say Islam, you hear Muslim."
If we could get people to SEPARATE the two--that the counter-jihad movement is not a bunch of xenophobic bigots, but Anti-Sharia human rights activists, who use evidence-based knowledge to understand a threat. Unfortunately, most people don't relate to "communism" as evil anymore, or even Nazism. So, we might need to focus on misogyny (using everything but the word misogyny...), child abuse, murder (and I mean MURDER, not just "killing" which can be a moral act depending upon circumstances), Islamic "justice" (removing body parts)... ALL of which is sharia-compliant, but we might not be able to get all folks to wrap their minds around sharia, so the horrible things that are OK in islam may have to do. And that we are not condemning all Muslims.
And to have a youtube phenomenon where it becomes apparent that what is said in Arabic is different that in English and the ruse is EXPOSED. Walid Shoebat and MEMRI might help us there. And some really ugly images in the right context could bring people to our side, rather than just bring condemnation toward us. Terribly sad, but evil acts can be ignored if they are not acknowledged.
Someone emailed this:
Citizen Warrior,
That’s an excellent question and great initiative. I’ve only recently discovered CW and III. These are great websites and superb work. Thank you for all you do.
Your question is excellent. Concentrating our power should really pay off. Not only will we concentrate power but we’ll feel less alone and part of a project. My first thought was to brainstorm. You will find the list below. But answering your question is more difficult.
When I ponder how we can make the most impact I believe we have to find the powerbrokers. I started commenting to friends on the internet. Now I’ve expanded to a bunch of Facebook friends. Educating them is important and if all of us do the same the numbers grow. But to make a real difference you have to educate and convince big players in government (they can change or introduce bills), NGOs, or private industry.
We should:
--Determine the Islam’s weakest link and concentrate power against it
--Focus on powerbrokers
--legislators state/local, feds
--educate, propose bills and provide drafts to stop Sharia and impede political islam, or to stop Islamic immigration
PS: As an example, CASA of Maryland, an organization that runs day labor center for primarily illegal immigrants in Montgomery county Maryland has socialist County Executives and Council Members on their side. Of course those politicians are connected with Senators (McKulski, etc), the Governor (OweMalley), and Hugo Chavez. They have received support and millions from all of them to run their illicit empire. Well-funded, they have a phalanx of lawyers and the liberal press to cover their backs. After years of fighting them in the legislature they now have in-state tuition, and are getting driver’s licenses again.
Here's the brainstorm session mentioned above:
Sharia
American Law for America Courts
Mosques
--Find a way to stop construction.
--identifying which are hardline orthodox or moderate but controlled by hardliners
--Develop brochure on impact of mosque in community
School Textbook review/control
--Brigitte G has a comprehensive study out on this
Web of Islamic groups
--how to expose them
Government dhimmitude
--exposing Islamists in the Administration
--Eliminating the restrictions on government agencies
--State, FBI, CIA, NSA are all restricted from using terms that accurately describe the threat and Islam. Call a spade a spade. Know your enemy. Use correct, not politically correct terminology.
--removing apologists
--opening eyes of legislators
--program to educate/assist powerbrokers
--State government/ lawmakers
--draft laws that pass Constitutional muster ready for legislatures to implement
--changing this probably depends on controlling Congress or electing a Constitutional President
Censorship/blasphemy laws
--end run with countering bills in the States
Educating Americans
--new ad program designed for internet with short and compelling video to educate citizens, legislators. This requires video experts on our wavelength.
--Develop an App for Smart Phones
--Develop Smart phone network to enable beneficial “flash mobs” to converge on when concentrated pressure is needed anywhere nationwide to influence the media
--Provide media outlets around the nation
--Training on Islam; facts; references
--An on-line guidebook for reporting on Islam
-- Consolidated slide/video presentation that Citizen Warriors can use to educate local citizens
Form an organization to fight Islam and protect Citizen Warriors
--501(c)3’s and 501(c)4’s
--Hire lawyers conversant in Islam
--Include/coordinate with Act for America, Judicial Watch, etc
--Offer memberships and look for donors
– Donald Trump seems to understand Islam and might donate a few million for seed money
--Convert someone in the House of Saud to Christianity; ask for donation
--Build huge defense fund for counter lawsuits
--Take on mosque builders or develop a strategy to do so.
--Guarantee support for counter jihadists against lawsuits
--Find a way to get Geller/Spencer to England; find another way to support the EDL efforts
--Provide access to insurance to provide protection against lawsuits against Citizen Warriors
Someone emailed this comment:
Last sentence question, what is most important: To maintain free speech, without curbs or restrictions, including free speech regarding religion, NOTHING except to directly promote violence. This is NOT the same as 'offending' someone who then goes off and commits violence. That is HIS criminal offense. If we don't have free speech, none of the groups, blogs, websites will do any good; they won't be allowed to be there.
Here's my 2 cents, i think its good to give these people ID, they get Id,and WE GET THEIR NAME and can track movements, accounts, before this program all they had to do is get a studeny visa, then disappear as soon as they get here, and anyone who says we shouldn't act solely on their ecthnicity, tell me why, if the terrorists are coming from only a few countries thats exactly who we should check extra before letting them in, and they say they kill us because we occupy their land then lets get every american soldier off their land, and the worst mistake we made when we got sadam was to dispand the military, we should of handed them power and said we are going to respect your wishes and not occupy your land and bush should've got every troop home, and the military would've ruled with force, and had things running years ago, but bush disbanded any form of government that were associated with sadams baath party,like they jad a choice which party to agree with
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